Bender Build

Discussion in 'Member's Garage' started by Anti, Sep 17, 2011.

  1. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

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    I'm not sure how it looks -the last ECU I tuned was a haltech F9 in about 2012!
     
  2. ryzan

    ryzan Moderator Staff Member

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    Fair enough. I don't want to get into an argument, and can't comment too much on what happened once it was out of my ownership. Just saying it wasn't just another tired old VG and to me that excuse seems a bit like taking the easy way out.
     
  3. SRB-2NV

    SRB-2NV #TEAMROB

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  4. MagicMike

    MagicMike Moderator Staff Member

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    Oem knock sensor does listen above 3k. The ecu does not do anything with it however. The sensor itself is exactly the same as any other sensor. Nothing stopping anyone from plugging into the oem knock sensor (assuming it is in working order) and live feeding into aftermarket ecu or knocklink or similar.
     
  5. SRB-2NV

    SRB-2NV #TEAMROB

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    The stock sensor can't differentiate between engine noise and detonation above 3k rpm and that's why its not used. For my knock lite i was recommended an Audi or VW knock sensor. Just an FYI for everyone, my NA didn't audibly ping until i advanced the timing 10* via the CAS and even then i barely picked it up.
     
  6. MagicMike

    MagicMike Moderator Staff Member

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    That is why good knock devices (that use oem sensors) have frequency filters. Each engine has a unique range of noise that knock makes. Vg is different to rb for example, so a good tuner will filter out engine noise outside the range for a particular engine.

    So if you are tuning a vg for example, you would specify to listen to a range between 8.4 and 8.9hz and a rb might be 9.6 and 9.9 (numbers made up).
     
  7. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    no, you called me a week after the motor was blown and made a peace offering because of all the bad wrap you were receiving as a result of what happened. this was as a result of both a) using a mechanic and a fabricator to tune cars even though you knew he was not competent doing so (as told to me straight up at a later date [yup!]) and b) not using the correct equipment (as evidenced by you picking up some knock equipment straight after this incident occurred... and you enthusiastically telling me.

    john, when I worked there you charged me $20 for 10 minutes of the mechanic's time to set the timing on my car. the bean counter that does that does not give away up to 25 hours of labour to help someone out. do you honesty think I was born yesterday?

    but whatever, right? it must just be me that's crazy. just another bridge burned on the long list of former faithful long term customers. what's the common factor here?

    you straight up snapped the tail light in half and went straight to "sorry bro... I'll replace it!" . which I was happy with initially when you said you had sourced a second hand one from a wrecker (I have the text history to prove it). then when you told me you were having trouble sourcing it I said I could get one at trade price from UAS. because they're not available anywhere else.

    anyway, this is a photo of my car at about the same time you came around. I don't see anything out of the ordinary?

    also, if you're going to lie on the internet it's best not to add tragic tidbits about how you i was so appallingly rude and i should thank you for not hurting me. diminishes your credibility a bit.

    anyway, both of these issues have attempted to be resolved by me only to be met with defensive selfishness from both sides. as there is literally nothing to be gained and reason to keep this going for selfish reasons alone i'm going to close this thread for a cooling off period.
     
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  8. Jinxed

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    Thread closed for 1 week at op's request. everyone had a opinion on all businesses. sometimes those opinions can be discussed. sometimes not
     
  9. Z32 TT

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    motor and vipec pics?

    sooo much cosmetic not enough go photos? complete opposite of me hahaha
     
  10. zedboy

    zedboy Active Member

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    How much did the Vipec set you back? Also any big differences between the Vipec and Haltech Platinum Pro?
     
  11. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    The engine build has unfortunately been pushed back by another 6 weeks because the builder is not available. I ordered my new JE pistons, L19 head studs, Jun valve springs and BDE cam gears this week so the ball is definitely rolling. It's out of my control at this point but should be swift when it starts.

    I have not bought the ViPEC yet - priority at this stage is to dump the money into the engine. ViPEC comes a little down the track; I can't even make the engine harness 'til I have the motor back in the bay.

    The top of the line i88 stand alone from ViPEC is north of the 3k mark after you pick up the looms/additional sensors. This is their custom wire in only ECU - doesn't plug into anything. The i44 (new replacement for the v44) plug and play and cheaper. I'm getting the i88 because I want to make a custom harness anyway. Between the Haltech and ViPEC honestly it is my understanding that they're not that different, but the ViPEC is a bit more tuneable and has slightly more in the way of features. I'm more or less just following the example of a few high end builds and going off of recommendations.

    New thread content coming soon.
     
  12. rob260

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    Dude the 44 and plug in are different ECU's, the 44 ain't plug 'n play either. There is a good feature comparison here http://www.vi-pec.com/ecus/ecu-features

    $3k? Geez must be paying tunehouse prices.
     
  13. Z32 TT

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    whats the i44 cost?
     
  14. rob260

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    Dunno but you don't want it in a six man. At least go the plug in so you have individual drivers per injector. I paid $1800 for mine.
     
  15. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    Whatever, tomayto tomahto between the models I'm not getting. Rob, your plug in is not comparable pricing wise as you know as it's apples and oranges. With the I88 released the v88 has been superseded and the pricing has gone up. The over 3k figure is retail price - add the looms, map sensor and a few temp sensors and you're over $500 in extras. Nothing out of the ordinary.
     
  16. rob260

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    Sorry what apples and oranges? Current lineup is still 44/plug in/88. Pricing depends very much where you shop. Funny the guy who didn't know what drivers were is now lecturing me on ECUs haha
     
  17. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    Apples and oranges in that you're putting forward old plug in prices when the guy was asking for new I44 prices in a discussion about the new I88. You can't just lose the first letter and pretend they're all the same because they do different things and cost different prices. I'm quoting AU dealer pricing dude.

    Anyway only have so much patience to argue about this crap on the internet. I'm getting an I88. And wiring it in. /build thread post
     
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  18. rob260

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    Who's arguing? I thought this was a technical discussion, forgive me for intruding on "the world according to Martin". As I explained to you when you asked me the 44 is a poor choice for Z32.... "New" or "old".
     
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    Rob havnt you learned yet lol...save your breath & help somebody else who will be grateful & actually would appreacite it

    Abraham
     
  20. boo5t

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    Wow was it not YOU that was posting on your high horse about how ppl act on the forum

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    "since Eric left I have been doing my best to actually contribute rather than talk smack"

    What a joke? Long??? hardly i would put my house on it its not.... funny you even needed to put that in there to feel better about the shortfall! Your language is disgusting

     
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