Another manual conversion - Progress and Questions

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  1. Cheddle

    Cheddle New Member

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    Well... I have access to a well stocked workshop with a hoist - I have adjusted the clutch master shaft before so I am painfully familiar with how awkward it is to get at that spring clip -.- dosn't help im 6ft2in hehe

    Just not sure what to do about the metal line that goes to the front - can you bypass it easily enough?

    I think id go a 350z clutch arm and new pivot ball while I had the gear box out and perhaps a braided clutch line.
     
  2. noel0leon

    noel0leon Member

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    You're lucky, workshop access is awesome.

    Honestly I haven't tackled the metal line yet. I'll have to do some more research but I reckon that you should be able to bypass or remove it completely.

    Good point on the 350Z clutch arm. I'm picking up a short shift kit so I'll get a new pivot ball as well.

    I have read that braided clutch lines don't make that much of a difference (something to do with the fact that they have to flex some) Have you used them before? What do you think?

     
  3. Fists

    Fists Well-Known Member

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    Braided clutch line isn't much of a performance boost but compared to the standard line on the Z it's a huge convenience boost when bleeding. I would strongly recommend just running a braided line straight from master to the slave. Google "Trouble bleeding clutch 300zx" and you'll see a pretty common problem.
     
  4. Cheddle

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    thats what I wanted to hear. I noticed that the 350z cluthc fork kit comes with an optional braided line. I reckon ill buy the kit.
     
  5. noel0leon

    noel0leon Member

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    Where are you buying the kit from?

     
  6. noel0leon

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    What a weekend, I was seriously ready to take the damn thing out and blow it up.
    I am learning first hand how much more cramped the automatic transmission makes the working space. I only have 3 bolts to get to (the three top ones) but the space is so tight that I have to take off the headers to get to them...

    So 22 bolts to take off just to get to 3... bloody hell. I also have to take off the oil filter as well.
    I could only do 4hrs yesterday before I got too mad to go on. :eek:

    The only upside is that I have aftermarket headers that I was going to put in anyway But man it's cramped in there.

    Something I need help with:
    At the end of the headers there is a second pipe/sensor screwed in. It's just forward of the oxygen sensor and runs behind the engine. The new headers only have a space for the 02 sensor.

    Can anyone help identify it?
     
  7. Cheddle

    Cheddle New Member

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    I had planned on buying from https://conceptzperformance.com/ - but... I am not sure... I might give my stock stuff a try and see how it feels.

    could be air injection system
    http://www.yugobernie.com/images/Misc/AIV_Caps_Diagram.jpg

    or could be exhaust gas recirculation
    https://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2014/10/24/11/28/pic-782182246801712820-1600x1200.jpeg
     
  8. Fists

    Fists Well-Known Member

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    I haven't dealt with the autos but I hear ~2ft worth of extension bars and two uni joints on a ratchet makes getting to the top bolts possible.
     
  9. noel0leon

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    It's definitely the exhaust return valve that goes to EGR. A plenum pull and EGR delete was on my list but I'll see how I can remove it now.

    I think I'll stick to stock stuff now as well. The clutch i got isn't super fancy.

     
  10. noel0leon

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    It's true with the manual gearbox but they're just not budging with the auto. I think the angle on the U joints is too much.

    I've got a 50cm extension bar and a u joint. I'll keep trying this weekend.

     
  11. Cheddle

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    I've read that lifting the front of the engine drops the gearbox back a little making it easier to get at the top bolts.

    semi-unrelated but my mate who used to drift an R31 skyline cut holes in the firewall to make getting those top two bolts a little easier ;-)
     
  12. Jinxed

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    this does work. loosen engine mounts and it will give it some "slop" and can lean back, giving better access.
     
  13. noel0leon

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    This may sound silly but is there a safety risk of loosening an engine mount too much?

     
  14. Fists

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    Nah, so long as you do them up before you go for a drive. Gravity will hold the engine in when stationary.
     
  15. Cheddle

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    There is always the risk of dropping it and have it snag/pull on wires/hoses.

    as long as the engine is supported properly (i.e an engine crane) before you start unbolting - you should be good.

    Im hopefully starting my manual conversion next week (have a passenger side turbo to replace as well).

    Got a GTR Extreme HD clutch kit in the mail along with a HEL braided clutch line. Also have brake pads and a 56mm alloy radiator to fit... plus a shocking belt whirring sound to track down but I reckon the manual swap is a go.

    I left my manual brake pedal in my wreck and plan to cut down the auto pedal to fit the manual grip pad - hopefully I will not regret this choice.
     
  16. Jinxed

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    dont remove the nuts, just have it loose.
     
  17. pmac

    pmac Z,, IT'S COMPLICATED!!!!!

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    Here is how to get at those two top bolts, you just have to clear those heater hoses out of the way first.

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  18. noel0leon

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    Coming in from the top? Interesting.

    I got the bolts out finally. But something is still stuck. After a couple of cables were cut... Back to the manual
     
  19. noel0leon

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    So here's my blonde moment, I didn't know that I had unbolt the torque converter before taking the gearbox out.

    So now everything is loose except those...
     
  20. noel0leon

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    Also, this is what is required to get the top transmission bolts off...

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