Selin Translator GB

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  1. zx299

    zx299 Well-Known Member

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    Selin Translator GB

    Some interest has been shown in the current Dual Intake GB for the possibility of a GB on the Selin Translator. In order to simplify things, I've opened this separate thread.

    If you want in on the Dual Intake GB, please go to the other thread http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310631

    The current approximate pricing for this GB is :-

    Selin Translator $255
    Selin Dual Intake $120
    Both combined $365

    These prices don't include local postage and are for a Group Buy minimum of 10 units.

    The purchase of a 2nd AFM & pod filter will be left up to each individual.
    Note : A 2nd AFM & pod filter are mandatory with the Selin Translator

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  2. katrinaz

    katrinaz MOO IS MY BITCH

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    sorry ,not having been involved in a g/b before,im a little confused

    so what are the extra costs on this,just local aust postage nsw - ????

    eg Both combined $365 landed in aust
    As this is about the same price concept charges (WITHOUT SHIPPING),im guessing the saving is not paying international shipping
     
  3. parker

    parker Been around for a bit

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    I have a question

    Since my ecu is socketed, I can just buy a remapped eprom from z1 or coz and run with one afm and yet have a dual intake, therefore negating the need for the Selin translator?

    If not then this looks like the way I will have to go. I already got my name down for the first GB, which is just the elbow kit. So someone as always enlighten the poor child :)
     
  4. ABZ300

    ABZ300 G

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    Im in for the Selin translator and the other group buy you have for the dual intake elbows

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    Raheen Active Member

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    Selin with Nistune?

    Is there any advantage to using a selin with a nistune, the nistune can double the reading from the one airflow meter which pretty much does the same thing as the selin as far as i can see. I know having an accurate reading from two afm is better than one guessing for the dummy afm, but is the difference worth the cash?
     
  6. zx299

    zx299 Well-Known Member

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    Some answers....

    You are correct. As I stated in the Dual Intake GB thread, a single AFM can be used on Dual Intakes via the use of Nistune, Zemulator, Apexi AFC or the burning of a new chip.

    If you have a "monster zed" pushing really big numbers, then you will need two AFM's and that would necessitate the use of the Apexi or Selin alternative.

    You are also correct. You can just replace your chip with a Dual Intake chip and run one AFM, but before you go buying an "off the shelf" chip from the US... I would approach one of our own forum members who could burn you a "Dual Intake" version of your current chip (which I assume is a custom tune).

    As stated in the opening post :

    "These prices don't include local postage and are for a Group Buy minimum of 10 units"

    The prices quoted are based on the approximate dollar value at the moment, and are calculated using the GB discount, shipping costs to Australia and fees/charges involved in a currency exchange purchase from the US.
     
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  8. yellow300zx

    yellow300zx Pimpin Ain't Easy

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    If you are running the numbers to need a 2nd air intake then you will need a second AFM and simply Selin is the best unit for this task. If you are for some reason doing a duel air filter when you dont need it then yes use the standard Nistune and set it for double reading.
     
  9. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

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    If your talking about having one intake with an AFM, and one without an AFM, and halving your K value on your ECU, then you can, it is however not accurate and you will have trouble tuning as only one bank knows exactly what it's getting, and the other bank assumes it's getting exactly the same...and it never does.

    If your talking about spliting to 2 pods AFTER the AFM, then thats fine, although in my opinion, totally pointless as a good POD will flow just as much unless your chasing the absolute limit of the AFM, which is around 500hp from memory.
     
  10. zx299

    zx299 Well-Known Member

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    Only partially correct.....

    You are correct in saying that both banks draw different airflows, BUT it is impossible when using the Nissan ECU, for the ECU to know what airflow each bank is drawing.

    a) If you're using the stock "Y piece", then the AFM TOTAL is drawn between both banks.

    b) If you're using a dual intake with the Selin Translator and two AFM's, then the AFM TOTAL drawn between both banks is either "added" or "averaged".

    c) If you're using a dual intake with one AFM and a "dummy", then the AFM is doubled to estimate an airflow TOTAL used by both banks.

    Out of all these methods, ONLY method (c) allows the ECU to measure the exact airflow consumed by one of the banks (the one with the AFM). It then assumes the opposite bank consumes exactly the same airflow (which it generally doesn't).

    Method (a) & (b) also assume both banks consume exactly the same airflow (which they don't).

    So the trick is to tune off the leanest bank, no matter which method you use, and you can't get into trouble :cool:
     
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    WhiteNight Littering and...

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  12. Evil Twin

    Evil Twin Time to 'Suit Up'!

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    Sorry mate..Im out of the group buy..I could see this taking a long time so i just went and bought a translator from COZ direct...postage was only $20....Ill let you know how it goes once installed
     
  14. zx299

    zx299 Well-Known Member

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    Any more interest ????

    Anyone else interested in getting a Selin Translator ?

    Unless we get some more numbers in the next week or two, this GB will be cancelled.

    I always had my doubts about getting the required numbers, but I opened the GB at the request of a few members who wanted one.
     
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