zed newbie needs help

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by xchn, Sep 16, 2012.

  1. xchn

    xchn New Member

    hey guys i'm new here.. i'm a motorbike guy looking to buy a classic sports car or at least to-be-collectible, and have always liked the 300zx.. wondering how collectible the 1984 50th anniversary edition zed's are, or might be in the future?..
     
  2. brisz

    brisz Well-Known Member

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  3. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    I certainly wouldn't buy one as a investment... But you wouldn't lose much on one. They aren't exactly expensive at the moment :p
     
  4. MickW

    MickW Carntry member...

    Welcome to the Forum mate :) What part of Vic are you in?

    1984 would make it the Z31 version of the 300ZX. 50th anniversary edition? I definitely doubt it...

    There's a few Z31 owners on here, hopefully they'll step in and give you some relevant advice.
    But we're mostly Z32 fanatics around here :D
     
  5. xchn

    xchn New Member

  6. xchn

    xchn New Member

    hey, i'm on the mornington peninsula.. what are you referring to when you say you "definitely doubt it"..?..
     
  7. 300ZXC

    300ZXC #TEAMROB

    Fake Ferrari Taillights - CHECK
    Terrible Veilside bodykit - CHECK
    Bomex Bumper w/ Blue Chicken Wire - CHECK
    Respray to different colour without doing engine bay - CHECK
    Filthy engine bay, no radiator shroud - CHECK
    Stock wheels - CHECK
    Checkerplate - CHECK

    I guess we have different definitions of "Good nick".

    I couldn't find any indication of how many K's it's done, but I'd be 99% confident that the value would hold no true representation of the actual value.

    Caveat emptor ;)
     
  8. z-alot

    z-alot Member

    Traditionally you have to assume most z32's have had their odometer clocked back.. Ppl normally try to match up condition of interior for rough guide if total km's is true or not.. ie. worn labelling on switches, seat wear, etc.

    For investment purposes I would recommend a 240z then a 260z, preferability 2 seater.. There are fewer examples of these around so it helps to drive the price up.. They do tend to rust like cancer maybe thats why less of them around.

    z32 (300zx) is great fun. at the moment you can get them pretty cheap. One problem with the z32 is alot of young ppl tend to purchase these cars thinking its a good idea, without being able to do alot of the maintenance themselves then they find themselves offloading a neglected example a few years down the track at a even more cheaper price.. so beware of neglected z32's since they will start getting expensive the more you have to fix them if you cant do most of the work yourself.

    z31's (300zx) and 280zx are probably the least popular models, so only buy them if you fancy them but definitely not for investment purposes.
     
  9. frysie

    frysie FRYTECH

    It's not wise to invest in a depreciating asset.
     
  10. xchn

    xchn New Member

    what exactly are you referring to as a depreciating asset?
     
  11. xchn

    xchn New Member

    thanks z-alot, appreciate yr tips.. just did a quick search and doesn't seem to be many 240 or 260 zed's around but there's a few 280zx's which would seem to suggest they're not as collectible.. still a nice looking car though..
     
  12. z-alot

    z-alot Member

    I think the issue with 280zx is they tend to be a little bit more heavier than 240/260z.. so ppl probably like to go with light as possible option to zoom around.. You can get single turbo 280zx & z31 300zx.. that would be cheaper fun compared to a z32 dunno about spare parts though... I think there were alot of engine fire related issues with the z31 if injector work was done incorrectly.

    I would go 240/260z for classic driving, more raw loud fun.. z32 300zx for modern driving fun with alots of aftermarket options galore!.. perhaps z31 anniversary starwars console for 80's flashback appeal.. 280zx if you can get it close to free..

    depends what tickles your fancy..

    You should check these forums too -

    more z31 related (I Guess) - http://www.zdriver.com.au/

    More 240/260z related - http://www.viczcar.com
     
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  13. z-alot

    z-alot Member

    In general cars depreciate in value. I would try to buy a Z that you would find the most joy out of.. then as long as you love it, if it happens to appreciate in value in the future good on you! but this should only be a side affect from your original Z loving!

    Theres no guarantee if something will still appeal to collectors in the future, depends on where the market sits so I wouldnt focus on this..
     
  14. z-alot

    z-alot Member

    Here have a look at a pair of 280zx..

    http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mannum/cars/1982-nissan-280zx-coupe-x-2/1005759550

    Should be a good deal if your mechanically minded and can do basic rust repairs ?

    Very cheap and should keep you entertained for awhile.. Alternatively a z32 300zx can sell low end price for $2500 (needs more than alot of work) to $4000 (needs a little less work than $2500 one) Best to purchase one at closer to $8000 since they tend to be better examples.
     
  15. 8300zx9

    8300zx9 Active Member

    OMG i just vomitted! The prices are certainly low atm, good time to buy. The bad/good thing about this, as another member pointed out, young people buy them which a) gives the z32 a bad name or image (because the make them "fully sick") and B) they cant look after them which then they need to parted out and gives us spares ;) This will drop the number of z32's out there and well maintained examples will remain......prices should increase at this point. Look for bones stock standard examples to buy (vergin's) and keep them in that way, years down the track i believe this will be rewarded with a higher price tag.

    Z32's are no where near this.....maybe another 20 to 30 years, so its along time to stick with a car and keep it in top condition.
     
  16. z-alot

    z-alot Member

    Exactly, a few years ago I was filling up with my favourite BP Ultimate, where the service station clerk said nice 300zx.. Then he started talking to me how much of a nightmare they were to maintain.. He even had a picture of his 300 on his credit card.. He only owned his 300zx for one year and was currently selling it for $2000 less from original purchase price as it was too expensive for him to maintain. Also when I was first looking for a sporty car, a young car sales man said dont get a 300zx it will spend half of its life in the shop..

    Looking back at it now, I dunno what the fuss is about.. If you can do the majority of the work yourself, its actually not that hard.. You just have to be ontop of maintenance of your Z will reward you :D
     
  17. Nauraushaun

    Nauraushaun New Member

    Z31s won't depreciate. It's already happened. And they're all pretty much gone, so a good condition one can only go up. In fact I think they already have - you can get a decent one for <$7000, but the good ones can sell for $10,000+. In fact, there are more than one going around for more than $20,000, because they're in excellent condition which makes them very rare. By contrast, there's a showroom condition Z32 going currently for $19,500, you'll pay more for a Z31 in the same condition.
    They were probably the single least popular Z car, and finding parts is a bitch (seriously), but I wouldn't expect much depreciation. Especially in the 50th anniversary ones.
    They're not the quickest cars, but they look good, sound good, and are feature packed (electric windows/mirrors, cruise control, adjustable suspension!).

    Ps. I'm also on the Mornington Peninsula, and I've got a Z31 ;)
     
  18. 8300zx9

    8300zx9 Active Member

    It's "preventative maintenance" easy to do, and you ontop of things you know need replacing before they damage other things. This is the main reason for such a low price vs a supra. So just give it time and all the fools that shouldn't have one will eventually be gone ;)
     
  19. z-alot

    z-alot Member

    I think you had a z32 before.. if so how does that compare to z31? in terms of handling?
     
  20. Nauraushaun

    Nauraushaun New Member

    I think the low price compared to the Supra is because Supras are generally considered to be better (performance wise) and more celebrated. And generally more popular.

    The Z31 doesn't really compare to the Z32. It feels a bit fat, a bit old and a bit boaty. My suspension probably isn't in top condition, and my NA Z31 has quite a bit less power than the NA Z32 I had before...but it's definitely not nearly as sharp. There's also not a lot of traction from the rear wheels :p
    The Z32 was a completely new car, for the first time since the Z-car was created. It was a complete overhaul, and performs much better.

    Edit: It's a wonderful car and a lot of fun, it's just not up there with the Z32. That's not to say I don't love it ;)
     

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