Tie Rod Spacer Install for More Angle!

Discussion in 'Technical' started by articdragon192, Aug 22, 2011.

  1. zedboy

    zedboy Active Member

    Hahahha ;)


     
  2. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    No you don't, you'd have a heart attack Ron, best leave those to me :cool:
     
  3. Wizard

    Wizard Kerb side Prophet

    Phhttt

    No heart attacks for me, tryed to induce plenty out on the race track,
    and i'll have you know
    I do some of my best work with big racks,
    Iv'e got references.:p:D:D

     
  4. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    Well I think you have your answer as to why your best times at the SAU day were when you had female passengers on board....
     
  5. Wizard

    Wizard Kerb side Prophet

    Wink wink

    A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.;)

     
  6. Boost Junkie

    Boost Junkie Member

    the spacers have been around for years and mainly drifters use them. im not sure but doesn't Drift Squid make replacement steering knuckles (spindles) for more steering lock and better ackerman angle?
     
  7. UNIQUE ZED

    UNIQUE ZED Zed Racing World

    Not all good

    This mod would most likely introduce bump and roll steer and make handling worse. This would need to be plotted to confrim. Factory zeds have max around 5 to 6mm toe change from full droop to full compression. Spacing the inner steering pivot point changes the geometry a fair bit and I suspect accentuate the toe change through suspension travel.

    http://www.nismo.com.au/downloads/front_camber_and_toe.xls
     
  8. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    Which Mod? The tie rod spacing or the woman with a big rack?
     
  9. nick300zxtt

    nick300zxtt Member

    Make that x 2!!!
     
  10. magsy

    magsy New Member

  11. TT rack or spindle modification
     
  12. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    Yeah, they are not expensive...but alot of work to fit them. Need to cut and shut the steering column. Good idea though, good for a dedicated track car. 2:1 ratio change on a zed road car would NOT be nice to drive on the road.
     
  13. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    So you cant have this mod to drift and circuit race ?
    if you wanted to do both sports...
     
  14. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    I can't think of a circuit where you'd need more lock than what the stock zed already has.
     
  15. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    I meant have the mod done for when I want to drift as well ..

    Need to find out if this mod just gives me the extra lock without changing/stuffing up toe/angles on my circuit set up
     
  16. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    From my mental visualisations, bear in mind I get distracted alot by bright lights and shiny things, I can think it will only effect them in the region of extra lock. Normal suspension angles should remain unchanged within the normal range of lock, from my understanding of how it all works. It would need to be tested.
     
  17. I haven't noticed much of a difference. However, I am running SPL Pro outer tie rod ends and have the tie rods spaced down to be parallel with my LCAs. I have heard from others that it does introduce a bit of bump steer, but it's nothing crazy. My car feels fine on the road course.
     
  18. Tektrader

    Tektrader Z32 Hoe, service me baby

    I don't understand how these are supposed to work.

    If you essentially make the tie rods longer you still have to adjust the tow in so the alignment is correct which basically dials out the the extra length. :confused::confused:

    All I can see this doing is stuffing Nissans Ackerman angle which they have set. by moving the inner balljoint pivot position outboard a poofteenth.

    Please explain ????
     
  19. URHYNS

    URHYNS Well-Known Member

    Ever driven a lambo? Or fazz?

    Real sports cars have shit turning circles.
     
  20. It's not about making the tie rods longer. It is about allowing the rack more travel before the tie rod bottoms out on the rack. Similar to running spacers because you as rubbing at full lock. You space out for more clearance so you get more steering.
     

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