Surgical operation for the blue beast...

Discussion in 'Member's Garage' started by pennyarvs, Feb 27, 2011.

  1. rollin

    rollin First 9

    powder coated plenum would have been nice ;)
     
  2. pennyarvs

    pennyarvs New Member

    Would love to in the near future. Don't have the dosh atm... :)
     
  3. pennyarvs

    pennyarvs New Member

    Have already sorted out this issue of "which goes where". Now keen to know a simple question:


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    Green circle goes on the black rectangle. Problem is I have lost the insulator which protects the connection and have already setup everything which prevents me from having easy access to that area. QUESTION: Is that insulation vital as it's the battery positive, I believe? Is it dangerous to leave that connection "open", uninsulated and without the rubber?



    Arvin
     
  4. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Simple answer...

    Once the battery is earthed, any positive connections are "live", leaving the opportunity for mayhem to occur should a live terminal come into contact with an earth.

    If it was my car I would find the insulator, or make abso****ingloutely sure that there is no possibility for short circuiting via that connection. You're likely to blow fuses/fusible links before inflicting any serious damage, but you know....

    I have been to many cars where the insulating plug is missing from the B terminal of the alternator. In theory this is a bad thing, however in practise it's seldom an issue as there is no chance for this terminal to make contact with the engine or body of the car. Likewise many cars do not have an insulating cover on the positive terminal.

    So yeah, if you think there is no chance of shorting out on that terminal don't worry about it, but if there is the possibility for it to make contact with the body or the motor, cover it up. And remember once you connect the negative terminal of the battery, any positive terminals go "live", so don't go shorting out any tools against this particular connection.
     
  5. pennyarvs

    pennyarvs New Member

    Thanks Rob! Any suggestion as to how I can somehow "protect/insulate" that bolt connection from any possible hazards? Would squeezing a dab of silicone on it do the job?


    Arvin
     
  6. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Yeah I guess so? Or urethane sika or something?
     
  7. Mitch

    Mitch Has one gear: GO

    find a suitable rubber boot at any auto shop, wreckers or maybe even a gasket and seal shop. another plan would be to get some heat shrink tubing and slide it over the wires. when the bolt is done up, slide it forward, heat it, and shrink it. Presto, finito.
     
  8. pennyarvs

    pennyarvs New Member

    It should be no hassle doing it up if it hasn't been fixed on the engine yet. Problem is everything's already back in place. Got no easy access no more! :(

    Will try to sort out a way tomorrow.


    Thanks guys...



    Arvin
     
  9. OZX_320

    OZX_320 Detachable Member

    finish this already :p been watching closely to see how the 2860R's perform.
     
  10. pennyarvs

    pennyarvs New Member

    Almost there. :p

    Aren't they 2560R's?! I'm getting mixed up with all these numbers...

    And also, what's the safe maximum boost I can play with them considering having stock internals, ECU and injectors? I do have Trust SMIC's, GFB hybrid BOV's, 3A racing pod filter, straight through 2.5"
    exhaust, EBC and HKS dumps that go with the new turbos...


    Arvin
     
  11. OZX_320

    OZX_320 Detachable Member

    Thought the GT28R's are 2860R's? Same, get confused with all of the variations (just a dumb light bulb changer). Will be interesting to see what they are capable of with stock internals if so, as going the same route turbo wise myself, with a bit of a variation in supporting bolt ons and auxiliary removal.

    All of these threads on turbos is making me wonder why im spending $$$ on the NA instead
     
  12. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    I thought GT28R was GT2560R and GT28RS "disco potatoe" was GT2860RS?
     
  13. OZX_320

    OZX_320 Detachable Member

    the turbos I purchased had numbers that matched the Garrett website as both GT28R's and GT2860R's, whereas the GT2860RS's has more blades in the impellors? They're at Eric's workshop, so cant check again.
    Could be wrong.... certainly wont be the first time, nor the last. Personal investigation started with "they look bigger and cheap, wonder what they are?" :p
     
  14. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    GT2860RS is GT28RS with tube inlet (off the shelf)

    GT2860R is GT28RS with 2 bolt compressor housing (2560r comp cover for Z32)

    GT2560R is GT28R with 2 bolt comp cover

    note ..there are different types of gt2860r with different size wheels that are a direct replacement bolt on for GTR's
     
  15. MoulaZX

    MoulaZX #TEAMROB

    So whats the break down on the HKS GT2530? :)

    MoulaZX
     
  16. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    You wouldn't know the difference between THE HKS 2530 and the GT2860R on your car .
    Only a very slight compressor difference ..everything else the same
     
  17. rollin

    rollin First 9

    You always come through with a good break down:)
     
  18. rollin

    rollin First 9

    my advice would be the bare minimum of boost with all that stock gear on there. those turbos will probably make the same power on 10 psi as stock turbos on 16.

    be very very carefull even at 10psi untill you check the injector duty cycle etc.
     
  19. pennyarvs

    pennyarvs New Member

    Thanks rollin. How can the injector duty cycle be best checked and monitored? Hat are your recommended "next step" upgrades? Nistune, I should say? And injectors? Go 555cc or 750cc?


    AAA
     
  20. rollin

    rollin First 9

    check duty cycle through conzult,ECU talk or other devices like a AVCR.

    you need to do a full power pull ideally in 3rd or 4th and monitor or log the peak duty cycle, its usualy around the 5000rpm mark and its quite normal to see it peak in the 90's with stock injectors and a modded motor.

    you could squeeze more power out of the stock injectors with a good 11.5to1 AFR tune as opposed to the stock 10to1

    The next step if you're on a budget would be a set of early 555's with a mail order ecu chip to suit.
     

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