Modifying stock tb's

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Jamie, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. lidz

    lidz Well-Known Member

    Was going to suggest looking up Robs posts on tt.net too. He bores out stock tb to 54mm, fixes all the non-round z1 58mm tb & is now making his own custom billet 60mm tb.
     
  2. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

    On plenty of anecdotal blather, this particular engine should not perform that well.
    On a pull-thru(supposedly the most inneficient setup), it made almost 1500bhp in qualifying tune......... It performs rather well with a surprisingly small TB back in the mid '80's.

    Lookit this itty-bitty thing then.

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    This different view is from the earlier motor with a throttle cable!!

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    Massive or even O/sized TB's (x 2) on a road going VG30dett.......muwaaaahahahahah! Wankie wank wank!!
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  3. kakaboy

    kakaboy New Member

    I had this set up on an old 2ltr Escort motor . Although mine had a SU carby where the TB is and it was a bitch to get to idle properly . But when it was moving and on boost it was bloody awesome :p
     
  4. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    I'll disagree with you this year because there is only 2 days left :rofl:
    There is a slight difference between pull through and push through ..

    push through when restrictive creates more psi build up /heat on turbo= less power at same psi.

    pull through has comp wheel scavenging for air and horsepower limited to what it can SUCK (not wank :p)
    comp wheel will suck more air through a restriction than it will push through a restriction (pressure build up)

    I could be wrong but I'm sure you will disagree.:D

    how big is that TB ...75MM ??
     
  5. tassuperkart

    tassuperkart Its a lie I tell you!

    YES, I will disagree. Better look it up!!!!!!!!
    This "comp wheel will suck more air through a restriction than it will push through a restriction" is the issue.

    Id say 75mm at most!

    These cats knew what was necessary 25 years ago to do the business. Is why i find it so amusing when we are told you MUST have a 100mm TB on an SR20...et-al to make ANY power.......Please!

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  6. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    Meh, plenty of greater restrictions further down the throat. Free up head restrictions before you start opening TBs on a blown motor.
     
  7. stumagoo

    stumagoo Active Member

    years ago when I was plumbing and doing a little bit on fluid dynamics for irragation systems the accepted norm was (and this is a lot larger scale I realise) we needed a metre of pipe diameter restriction for it to be of noticable effect, I dealt with a lot of guys who believed this. I feel the reality is the hard bend off our turbos and the length of our intake system will have larger affects on air flow than 4 mm dia on our tb's. (1 X 90* bend in water flow was considered app equal to 1 mtr of pipe)
     
  8. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    Pretty much this, and gasses are even more forgiving than water.
     

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