Ethanol in Fuel

Discussion in 'Technical' started by tezza, Apr 1, 2005.

  1. tezza

    tezza New Member

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    Just heard about this happening on the gold coast and petrol was 9c/L i think i heard.

    What would this do to a 300 engine / perfomance. Just interested to hear what ppls know.

    cheers
     
  2. Luig

    Luig luig

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    It would probably "ping" at idle! The old saying you get what you pay for!
     
  3. cbzx

    cbzx cbzx

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    up to 10% slightly corosive

    to fuel tank and hoses most cars can use it,It absorbs moisture and on race motors with high persentages causes engine to run cooler. Down side when engine floods it turns oil to a water like mix.
     
  4. Kalus

    Kalus Finally dug myself out

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    why would you say that????

    Ethanol is rumoured to have an octane rating of 113, and is used as an octane booster in fuels. It also has cleaning properties that help keep fuel components clear from deposits. In addition to this (not that I care) it is more environmentally friendly due to lower CO and CO2 emissions. People often compare our fuels to those in the United States, where Ethanol has been used for 35 years as a fuel additive. The major difference is the way we rate the octane. RON (research octane number) is a rating of how well the fuel deals with knocking or pinging. MON (motor octane number) is a measure of how the fuel deals with run-on or dieselling. The US pumps show the average of these two numbers as a measure of octane, whereas we only use the RON. So, here, 98 octane fuel is 98 RON. Adding Ethanol to fuel increases the RON, lowers emissions, keeps the fuel system clean and also lowers economy by about 3%. This said, ethanol is also cheaper to produce (from a by-product of sugar manufacture).

    On a side note, Nissan does not recommend using Ethanol blended fuels in cars manufactured earlier than 2004. The usual blending is a 10% mixture (used all over the US). Nissans recommendation says that it may have a detrimental effect on fuel system / engine components. Ethanol draws moisture from the air (Hygroscopic or Hydrophilic) and therefore tends to dry out fuel lines and such, causing certain hoses to crack.

    I think I've spruked on long enough :)

    Anyone want to add anything???

    Edit: Brazil has been using Ethanol in fuel since 1939, but cars sold there allow for this (Ethanol blended fuel can tend to run a little leaner than normal)
     
  5. MaxsZX

    MaxsZX Active Member

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    Thats is very useful....

    i just learnt something today, very good info:thumbsup:

    Max:thumbsup:
     
  6. Vincent

    Vincent New Member

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    Yep, the only down side is the tendency to eventually destroy rubber.
     
  7. Kalus

    Kalus Finally dug myself out

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    Yes, I found this out by experience...

    I had fuel hose problems from the day I started my new engine up. The NEW hoses split after only an hour of running. They were then replaced with some supposedly hi-temp resistance tubing which split a couple of months later. I then started doing the ring-around of hose places to find something 'top quality' only to find it doesn't exist. I was told by a number of shops that there isn't a fuel hose that is compatible (or recommended) for use with PULP. Since then I changed from Optimax to Ultimate and haven't had anymore hose problems (last replacement was with some cheap shit from SuperCheap). Read from this what you will :)
     

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