Compliance papers for 15 year imports?

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  1. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    I went for my blue slip today and encountered further issues than having to bleed the radiator twice on the side of the road.

    Car passed the blue slip, no issues there. My problem is that the car doesn't have any information on its compliance.

    The inspector said that cars that came in under the 15 year import rule were provided with some form of paperwork (as opposed to a green compliance plate) to confirm they comply with the ADR's. I don't have this paperwork.

    My Z32 was registered in Queensland for many years but hasn't been registered in NSW yet.

    Apparently being registered in Queensland previously isn't enough for the NSW RTA.

    I know the number plate the car had in QLD. I'm also pretty sure I know the people who imported the car.

    What do I need to do here? Can I get some form of printout from the QLD RTA or the importers? The inspector stated I'd need to obtain an engineer's certificate if I couldn't provide the paperwork. That's not going to be fun.

    -A
     
  2. zedboy

    zedboy Active Member

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    Unless you can get those papers your going to have a shit time getting it registered. I have a mate with an R33 same problem, bought the car in Melb and was registered - went to put NSW plates on it and something on the papers was missing (letter or number incorrect on the VIN I believe).

    This was 7 years ago.................... and has had VIC plates on it since then. Was easier to have a VIC drivers license and send his mail to family down there.


     
  3. boo5t

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    Mate give me a call or PM me. I can help you through this. I lost my papers when my car went in storage for 5 years and the company who complied it did not have any records 5 years on.... I will give you your options
     
  4. Owen_120

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    I had this exact same issue with my first Z I was told that I had to email the dept of imports or something like that giving them the vin and they sent me out a thing saying that it was imported under the 15 year rule, but I believe it still had to be engineered. I never worried with it, I just sold the car as there was too much that needed to be changed back to standard so that it would pass engineering, for your sake I hope your situation is different especially soo close to Zedfest. Stupid if you ask me though, you would think that all the states would be the same with regards to compliancing and what not.
     
  5. whoppersandwich

    whoppersandwich Le Canon De Douche

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    Yeah I sold my old red NA with ACT rego to a dude in sydney and he still hasnt been able to get a blue slip because of this... i sold it to him in Nov 2010:eek:
     
  6. Nasty_Girl

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    I bought the car from NSW and went to register it in QLD. It was imported under the 15yrs rule - however since it didnt have a compliance plate due to this ruling it now needs to be re-compliaced - $1.5k I was able to get it registered
     
  7. bains

    bains ZedCop

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    Best of luck with that, i think thats why people says "cheap zed is not always cheap to own"
     
  8. DinoZ

    DinoZ Talks sh#t for a living.

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    Go into your nearest rego office and get them to print you out the list of approved engineers. Do a ring around and get some pricing options. You will note that some of the approved engineers are based outside NSW,

    It may be a long shot but one of the Gold Coast or Brissie based people on the list may have done the original compliancing and for a fee provide a duplicate of the certificate.

    After I imported my Zed and got it complied, I made sure that the compliance certifcate was stored in a safe place and I keep a certified copy of it in the glove box.

    Good luck.
     
  9. ducko

    ducko New Member

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    i had no problem with mine and it has no plate...
    just got the blue slip and green slip then went into the RTA and paid for the rego and its done...maybe go elswhere for you blue slip??
     
  10. trevsay

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    a few points. if you want to register in QLD, you don't need any documents as the car was already Registered. when you take it to NSW , you will need a copy of the import approval . Compliance for a 15 year old was similar in QLD and NSW (seat belts, door bars and child restrants) Vict was different to this. In NSW you also had to weigh the car.
    In NSW you need a compliance plate. . find a cheap guy. In QLD $150 to $200.
    / For the import approval, call DOTARS in Canberra. they issue the import approvals and may help you. Send me the last 3 digits of the chassis number and I"ll see if it was one of mine. also go back to who you bought it from and see if you can find out who imported it.

    good luck
    Trevor
     
  11. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    Can these be obtained separate to approval for the rest of the vehicle? What I mean is I assume these are obtained from an engineer - can I get a compliance plate fitted without him looking at (and there for passing/failing) the rest of my car?
     
  12. scottyoz1962

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    DOTAR will supply you with the original import paperwork or at least a copy of the original. An engineer will do a compliance but will need too see the vehicle to make sure it's " SAFE " , only because if something goes wrong it's his arse on the line and the fine's and loss of his certification plus the time he's gonna spend with " Big Bubba " as a roommate isn't worth it. See if you can get hold of the person you bought it off and pray like hell they still may have the paperwork to save some time.
     
  13. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    The original paperwork is unobtainable, I can assure you. The car had some 4-5 owners before me in Queensland.

    So that means the engineer MUST look over the rest of the car? And see the FMIC, BOV's, coilovers... even if I just want a compliance plate and not mod approval?
     
  14. syntax_X

    syntax_X Zed Head

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    If the cars never been rego'd in nsw youll have a problem. But the compliance plate shouldnt be an issue at all. Take it to a different guy, i have some problems with an imported s13 that had the 1.8l ripped out and an sr20 installed, only ever regoed in qld.

    They tried to sting me for engineer papers, cheapest i could find was $700 and over a months booking.

    So we read thru the rta rules and found that if an engine change is within 15% capacity increase then there is no need to be engineered.

    Even tho the car came with a modifacation plate for engine swap and turbo/intercooler upgrade. I took this plate off and threw it away :D told no one of it.

    The guy that blue slipped it for me looked over the larger turbo and intercooler, saying that i could of performed those mods when i got home.

    The blue slip cost $130 for being the first time regoed in nsw, and being an import.
    No papers were required for the green compliance plate.

    Look rta inspectors all have a different opinion, they know different rules to each other.

    We rang up the rta and spoke to someone over the phone and set up the rego. Then went in and did it.

    So basically, 20 year old modified imported s13 with Qld plates regod in australia with no engineer certificate. Oh btw the nsw rta couldn't even tell that it had been rego'd in aus b4.

    We did this januaryish.

    How long ago was the car imported?
     
  15. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

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    A clever person would have changed the rego BEFORE doing all those mods(would have saved a world of pain and stress).
    Once an Engineer gets a hint of massive changes to vehicle specifications, he will check everything before being prepared to issue a certificate(after all, it is his reputation and livelihood that are "on the line", as well as Public Safety).
    Your safest bet is to get "official proof" of the QLD rego details from the relevant authorities in QLD(and try to bluff it out from there).
     
  16. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    THANKS BRO, I'M SO GLAD I HAVE YOUR INSIGHT NOW, BEFORE I GO AND DO THAT. GOD AM I LUCKY I DIDN'T GO SPEND 8 MONTHS AND EVERY CENT TO MY NAME MODDING THE CAR BEFORE REGO. CHRIST, WHERE WOULD I BE WITHOUT YOU?

    Proof of interstate registration is no longer good enough for the NSW RTA.
     
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  17. syntax_X

    syntax_X Zed Head

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    Just been speaking with my gf and her s13 was compianced in 2000. We were NEVER asked for compliance papers, all the info was on the green plate.

    Anti, How much did your blue slip cost? I can only think that you have a standard slip, not an import blue slip.

    If you have passed the blue slip then seriously ring around different rta offices. When you finally find someone that is willing to help then get a reference number.

    Remember that a green compliance plate is valid NATION WIDE!!
    Its mod plates that don't mean shit in other states.
     
  18. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    I don't have a green compliance plate. That's the entire problem.
     
  19. CHILI

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    Thanks for that(I think I see the reason for your problems).:(
    You're on your own from this point onwards, lot's of luck.

    BTW, that was QLD registration not legislation.:p:br:
     
  20. syntax_X

    syntax_X Zed Head

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    This sucks balls. long road ahead.
     

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