Air Flow Meter/Vented Nose + Rain

Discussion in 'Technical' started by SpringsZ, Aug 18, 2011.

  1. SpringsZ

    SpringsZ New Member

    My Z tends to destroy the delicate circuitry in the chips of Air Flow Meters with consequent poor idling+ lean mixtures. As the pod filter is right behind the vents can heavy rain + consequent dampness play havoc with the air flow terminals? Should the pod be protected from excessive dampness. Are vented noses a possible culprit?
     
  2. Mitch

    Mitch Has one gear: GO

    My AFM goes a bit dicky when there is heavy rain or the car has jut been washed.
    I run a FMIC with one of those border airboxes above, so have 2 pod filters straight behind the vented nose panel.
    What I think happens is the water and air mixture cools the hot wire too much, which leads to incorrect air flow readings, and incorrect air/fuel mixtures down the path.

    How do you know its running LEAN as opposed to rich, out of interest? My spidey sense makes me think that water excessively cools the wire, ie simulates extra air flow, which is met with extra fuel (ie rich...).
     
  3. SpringsZ

    SpringsZ New Member

    The AFM was tested as running lean after it was causing problems. Your comments would be correct during normal running.
     
  4. briza

    briza BRIZA

    I get the same problem with the vented nose cone. It runs fine till I go up to boost revs and then totally breaks down. I always thought it was water in the the foam filter getting sucked into the turbos. ?
     
  5. nemz

    nemz nemz cam: active

    do you have the splash guard underneath?
     
  6. AndyMac

    AndyMac Better than you

    It's not the AFM, it's moisture in the connector. Use some of that electrical grease in the actual connector and wrap the join with electrical tape. Haven't had an issue since.
     
  7. misszen

    misszen Red ones go faster!

    Anything other than air will not be good for the AFM element.

    Water will make it oxidise and wear out the element faster over time but more importantly it affects voltage values significantly as you alreay know. This may sound a little like suck eggs but the AFM is also that sensitive that the manual states be careful moving it around or working around it. knocks can damage it so check your harness is tight and its not loose and bouncing around, particularly if you have been chewing them up.

    It had more protection when it was stock from water intake, so shields can help but Reverse Air Ram Ducts are a better way to get around it obviously.

    You shouldnt be chewing up AFM's
    You should change it so only air goes into it, but I think you have already worked that out here

    Regards Linda
     
  8. misszen

    misszen Red ones go faster!

    Hi andy
    I originally had AFM problems then I used some water dispersant in a spraycan designed for electronics for the connector - worked really great, it literally forces the moisture out and forcibly keeps the moisture out then you just tape as well. Never a problem since as well

    Its worth having a can of this stuff around for things like that
     
  9. SpringsZ

    SpringsZ New Member

    I think shields will be the go. My vents are large + expose the pod-ok in dry weather with an extra ram of air but a worry in the rain. AFM shows no obvious signs of damage + static voltages always read ok, but as you indicated they are fragile + when you pry the cover of + look inside you soon realise their vulnerabilty. Stay clear of cheap AFMs. The genuine Bosch unit is available at about $300. The new unit cured all my idle issues instantly.
     
  10. briza

    briza BRIZA

    No I dont have the splash guard. Very open at the front with the vented nose as well.
     
  11. nemz

    nemz nemz cam: active

    As people have mentioned though. The main cause of problems with AFM's are the connection from the plug(water carries electrical current, water in your plug = not good)
    And also the circuitry inside.

    The element will give wrong readings when cooled by moisture travelling through, but would not say, will wreak havok =p, so the problem may lay with the plug or actual circuit board in the AFM.
     

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