Busted Carbonfibre Driveshaft

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by rom-vg30dett, Dec 11, 2009.

  1. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    OUCH!
    The very reason why I decided to go with a steel one-piece.

    Surely that should have some sort of manufacturer warranty?
     
  2. vbevan

    vbevan Active Member

    Damn. That's so weird from everything I read. Maybe it was installed incorrectly or something? Or the diff moved and caused it to flex too much or something?
     
  3. Chad_

    Chad_ Well-Known Member

    freaked out when i found out last night :eek:

    i have these thoughts hovering over my head...

    if you had a steel one that would not have happened, but then what would have happened to the ends???

    if it was solid it obviousli couldnt snap like that so it would go to the next weakest link... and that would be???

    wtf would have caused this to break ???
     
  4. MoulaZX

    MoulaZX #TEAMROB

    Yea im at a complete loss too. How is this possible at only 5 psi boost going from 2nd to third. My money is on something else here which caused the C/F shaft failure, kinda like a dominoes effect thing.

    MoulaZX
     
  5. Egg

    Egg ....

    Big problem...

    ...with CF shafts is they don't like being hit by objects that get thrown up from the road. Hit one with a hammer and it's stuffed.
    Though with this said I see car manufacturers selling new cars with CF drive-shafts... do they have some sort of shroud to deflect anything that may hit the shaft? Or completely covered?
    It probably wouldn't have even happened with a chrome-molly or other steel one piece.

     
  6. maTTz

    maTTz 500 Club

    they can probably make you another one, you just keep the aluminium adapter in your diff, and send them the uni joints and they re-fabricate the shaft section

    that would be my first option... i'd also ask them to beef it up to the 1500hp version (wasn't it a bit thicker? or was it 2000hp?)
     
  7. ZDUCTIV

    ZDUCTIV Active Member

    I don't really understand all the "outrage" in this thread.

    Hardly the first $1k part to fail on a Z. Be interesting to see what PST do.
     
  8. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

    Because it's something that is supposed to be able to take the power easily and safely, and is marketed that way. Then it goes and splits in half. I can't think of many $1k zed parts that just explode.
     
  9. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    I have a PST one too, no issues yet. Bit of a worry though as it doesn't sound like this one broke under massive power. At 5psi even at the top of the rev range it's not going to be making bucketloads... Maybe it has fatigued under time? How many kms has it done?
     
  10. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    here is a question ...

    how close was it to your exhaust? too much heat ..?

    Rob260 has a custom heat shield from what I've seen
     
  11. TWIN TERROR

    TWIN TERROR Well-Known Member

    It looks a bit like the resin hasn't gone all the way thru the fibre when it was made ? . That would affect the strength.or is it just the picture ?.
     
  12. East Coast Z

    East Coast Z Well-Known Member

    In my experience ACPT are excellent to deal with, fantastic aftersales backup & service.
    Heat from the exhaust will not have any impact on the carbon fibre, so you can rule that out as a possible cause.
    These driveshafts will fail if they are subjected to a side impact on the shaft.
     
  13. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    ok wasnt sure about heat and C/F
     
  14. SIM300

    SIM300 FAKE MODERAT0R

    Unlucky, Chris. You wouldn't expect that to happen so easily. I just bought myself a 1 piece ally shaft from the US & it arrived the other day.
     
  15. ZDUCTIV

    ZDUCTIV Active Member

    Sure it does. UWAM had issues with the carbon fibre monocoque in earlier cars because the carbon fibre was delaminating with the heat.
     
  16. maTTz

    maTTz 500 Club

    that's what I pm'd to the original poster
    wasn't sure if acpt would see this thread or not

    my exhaust is wrapped in fibreglass wrap to protect the dshaft - rob can u post pics of your heat shield???
     
  17. rom-vg30dett

    rom-vg30dett Always Broke

    To answer a few of questions;

    1. There was nothing specified anywhere about making special heat sheilds in order to use the CF shaft. Last I heard, CF is pretty resistant to heat.

    2. The part was on the car since I finished building it, about 1.5 years. In that time I've done less than 10,000km and 1 track day.

    3. I've e-mailed ACPT and now I'm just waiting for a reply. The car now has a stock shaft installed and its driving fine.
     
  18. pexzed

    pexzed Forum Administrator

    Now you have 0 RWKW, and 100% drivetrain losses :D

    :rofl:

    Sorry !! :zlove:
     
  19. East Coast Z

    East Coast Z Well-Known Member

    In relation to the ACPT CF driveshaft:
    During manufacture, the driveshaft is subjected to a heating process that vastly exceeds the temperature likely to be encountered in close proximity to the exhaust.
     
  20. a2zed

    a2zed Guest

    I guess this is another case of what is suitable for a race car is not necessarily suitable for a road car. A stone or other road debris flicked onto the shaft is enough to cause a fatigue point in is structure. This would be picked up in periodic inspection. For all of those(most of us) running aftermarket suspension, brakes and driveline parts it is a good idea to check them often, might be a pita but could of saved this shaft and any progressive damage that has resulted. I would be sticking with a steel one piece for road use.
     

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