Final build stage... hopefully

Discussion in 'Member's Garage' started by 92z32tt, Aug 16, 2013.

  1. 92z32tt

    92z32tt New Member

    Cheers... was hoping to finalize the tune/results this time, but I guess when you are pushing the envelope a little, things will crop up.

    I know there have been higher figures attained but some of these were after a number of broken engines ... I am trying not to break mine.
     
  2. mungyz

    mungyz Well-Known Member

    Careful you will get people all upset & they will start on the "that car would never make that power in Australia" song & dance :rofl:
     
  3. SRB-2NV

    SRB-2NV #TEAMROB

    No, we only say that when people claim they made 10kw more than this, on smaller turbos, less boost and no water injection or E85 :rolleyes: ...this result actually looks genuine :br:
     
  4. mungyz

    mungyz Well-Known Member

    What a cock.
     
  5. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

  6. 92z32tt

    92z32tt New Member

    Come on kiddies play nice, some light hearted banter is good ... BUT, please don't destroy this thread.

    If you havn't already worked it out yet I tend to do things with my car that are outside the norm and without spending huge amounts of money doing it.
    I like to pass on my experiences, good or bad to other enthusiasts for their information.

    I am not interested at all in personal bickering sessions about who's is bigger.

    I will how ever point out that my car was run on the same Dyno with same tuner and at the same time of year as the car referred to a few posts back.

    I believe we would all be much better off if other peoples results/achievements were viewed with open minds, we might just learn something... after all we are not dealing with an exact science here and some things happen that defy what we think should happen.

    Sorry for waffling ... if you want to discuss various aspects of the build/results discuss away.
     
  7. mungyz

    mungyz Well-Known Member

    Was it BP 98 or Mobile 98 you were running on?

    If you are going to swap for bigger exh manifolds please hammer it with what you currently have & get the most you possibly can then swap to the bigger ones.
    I'd be interested to see the result.
     
  8. 92z32tt

    92z32tt New Member

    Always run BP 98.

    If I go to bigger Exhaust manifolds it won't be until next year so will defiantly try max ( without breaking it ) the current setup first... would be useful to find out what the real world performance difference is.
     
  9. 92z32tt

    92z32tt New Member

    Got hold of the boost graph.

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  10. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    that's very good .



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  11. 92z32tt

    92z32tt New Member

    Cheers ... when I have sorted the Crankcase Breathing issue I will be back to the tuner to lift the top-end boost and flatten the "humpy" bit.
     
  12. 92z32tt

    92z32tt New Member

    Finally had some time to sit down and have a look at what difference Water Injection makes.

    Ignition Timing:

    W/O Water = 14.5 degrees @ 7000 rpm ... 23psi

    With Water = 22.5 degrees @ 7000 rpm ... 23psi

    Power diff = extra 44 rwkw ... the cam advance is most likely holding the power back at this rpm.
     
  13. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    great timing with water .

    its a double edge sword with the cam advance , more topend will sacrifice the spool ..

    try it and see the difference and judge the topend gain vs lost spool .
    every engine/setup responds differently .

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    E85 ;)
     
  14. 92z32tt

    92z32tt New Member

    Closest E85 is 1.5 hour drive away :(

    Will have a play with the cam timing next time ... @+6 degrees max. boost was achieved at 4700-4800 with max. torque in at 4900rpm so some where in-between is the sweet spot.
     
  15. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    So on your above posted graphs that's +8 degrees making you your spool and torque come in 200rpms earlier at around 4500-4600rpm?


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  16. mungyz

    mungyz Well-Known Member

    Just had a look at the tune for the blue car & found at 7KRPM & a fraction more than 23PSI Mines running 15 degrees so pretty similar.

    Would be interesting to compare full timing maps one day just to see what differences there might be.

    E85 will be at Hampton Downs very soon & we have it here in Hamilton already, they just need an outlet in Taupo & I'd consider swapping over - would need bigger injectors though.
     
  17. 92z32tt

    92z32tt New Member

    To clarify ... current Inlet can timing = +10.5 degrees which has the spool and torque coming in about 200 rpm sooner than when the Inlet cam's were set at +6 degrees which isn't much, but the Torque is up 120nm's.
     
  18. 92z32tt

    92z32tt New Member

    I will figure out how to get a screen shot and send it to you.
     
  19. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    ok cool
     
  20. Z32 TT

    Z32 TT Active Member

    That's awesome well done. 22.5 is more than I thought you would be running. You gonna turn the boost up?
     

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