Shafted!

Discussion in 'Technical' started by ZisLuv, Feb 14, 2006.

  1. ZisLuv

    ZisLuv New Member

    Arrived today :)

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    Looks like it got a bit hammered on the trip but Im suprised as very very well boxed and padded. Everything else looks great. So light I can pick it up with my left hand easily.

    Thanks Street to Strip. Big recommendation on their service.
     
  2. MexiCandu

    MexiCandu Grumpy of the Grampians

    Looks good Nathan

    Pity you have to hide it under the car where you can't see it:D
     
  3. Draco

    Draco The 1000 Man....

    Toyz...

    looks great..
    what's Nathan doing with all his old toyz..
    is there a Zed garage sale at his place soon.. :thumbsup:
     
  4. Egg

    Egg ....

    Pardon my ignorance.

    But what's the round thing with the bolts?
    And if you do achieve something like 700hp they say a CF driveshaft will give you about 5% more power at the wheels... nice bonus really on top of the safety feature. :)
     
  5. Kalus

    Kalus Finally dug myself out

    must just be an adapter for a non-300zx rear uni.
     
  6. ZisLuv

    ZisLuv New Member

    Yeah no idea as nothing else in the box

    I just figured it was an adaptor. Having not seen the ends myself Im not sure if its required.
     
  7. K-zed

    K-zed Secret Squirrel

    Looks great

    Is the t/shaft & CV adaptor HP rated?
     
  8. Egg

    Egg ....

    That one...

    ...is a 3.26" Outside Diameter CF shaft and rated at 1,000HP... can also get them in 3.79" OD and these are rated @ 2,000HP
     
  9. K-zed

    K-zed Secret Squirrel

    :thumbsup:

    Thanks Paul. Should see Nathan thru a few rebuilds yet, eh? ;)
     
  10. Egg

    Egg ....

    I actually advised...

    ...to get the 2,000HP shaft as it was only marginally dearer. ($200)
    But, no point really... the dif and axles wont take much more then 1,000HP with sticky rubber. So if he did go beyond 1,000HP he'd need new dif, gearbox and axles and probably a new shaft anyway as the length wouldn't be right.
    Should work a treat, it wont twist like metal shafts either. :)
     
  11. Wooksta

    Wooksta New Member

    Looking at the pics, you will need the adaptor...

    The Z doesn't use a standard 4 bolt spicer coupling, which is what is swinging off the back of your t/shaft. The Z uses a 6 bolt pattern.
     
  12. mikemd

    mikemd New Member

    Huh..???

    "...wont twist like metal shafts either".
    Do they really? What sort of stresses cause this? Or, is it only under high performance applications?
     
  13. method

    method Active Member

    looks awesome! May have to invest in one soon :)
     
  14. chewy

    chewy Active Member

    it bolts up to the front of the diff like this >>

    my sexy diff with home made alloy bushings :)

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  15. Egg

    Egg ....

    Yes, they twist.

    Fraom the acpt website.
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    All driveshafts twist to some degree when torque is applied. The resistance to this twist is measured as torsional spring rate. Standard ACPT driveshafts have a torsional spring rate a little less than aluminum and about half that of steel. The advantage of a lower spring rate is less driveline shock and a reduction of stress on other drivetrain components, as well as increased traction. Every part of your drivetrain may benefit from the use of a carbon fiber shaft.

    The continual twist when torque is applied eventually causes all metal shafts to take a set in the twisted position. Consequently the shaft ends become permanently out of phase by several degrees and vibration begins to break components. Carbon fiber, on the other hand, has a near perfect "elastic memory". ACPT's carbon fiber driveshafts can't fail by becoming permanently twisted.

    As RPM goes up, all driveshafts begin to whip. At a certain "critical speed", unique to each type of driveshaft, this bending of the shaft creates lateral runout and vibration. The intensity (magnitude) and frequency of these bad vibes are determined by a combination of stiffness, density, size, and geometry. This vibration is a primary cause of drivetrain breakage from the transmission to the rear end. The "critical speed" of ACPT's carbon fiber shafts is much higher than steel or aluminum shafts of the same size. Exceptional harmonic damping coupled with high lateral stiffness and low density allow carbon fiber driveshafts to virtually eliminate vibration problems from shaft whip.
     
  16. beaver

    beaver southern zeds

    Yes, they twist.

    They tend to self-destruct into a pyle off usless splinters,didnt mention that bit!
     
  17. ZisLuv

    ZisLuv New Member

    You realise that is a positive point though right?
     
  18. Egg

    Egg ....

    Brooming

    Carbon fiber driveshafts provide a special measure of extra safety. Despite safety hardware like shaft hoops and covers, a broken metal driveshaft can become a flailing bludgeon that beats up everything in its' path; severe injuries to the driver, extreme damage to the car, and even vaulting the car into the air can be the result. Carbon fiber minimizes these dire consequences.

    Carbon fiber driveshafts are built for strength primarily to transfer torque and can be broken with a hard blow from the side. The result is that when a u-joint or yoke fails the carbon fiber composite begins to disintegrate when it contacts the chassis or driveshaft hoop. As the composite comes apart, the shaft simply turns into a bunch of loose carbon fibers. much like the end of a broom . In fact, in composite technology this failsafe state is called "brooming". Instead of tearing up the driver and shredding the chassis, the carbon fiber broom will probably just polish dirt and paint off the chassis.

    Racers race to go fast, not to cheat death and disability. ACPT is very proud of the fact that our driveshafts have helped to prevent serious injury on several teams, like Dick Anderson Racing. "I have two talented, young drivers to protect," Dick Anderson explains. "Both have narrowly escaped serious injury when metal shafts broke and penetrated their cars. Last season, a bracket came loose, destroyed the torque arm and broke the ACPT shaft in two; but it never came into the car. It "broomed", just as they said it would, and no one was hurt."

    "from the acpt website"
     
  19. beaver

    beaver southern zeds

    You realise that is a positive point though right?

    positive in respect to your safty and others, yes!
    Im pointing out they dont seem last very long, and are expensive. Why dont super cars have them fitted, answer> no one would finish the race!
     

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