Center of mass.

Discussion in 'Technical' started by ztoy, Jul 31, 2016.

  1. ztoy

    ztoy Autospark Evolution

    Has anyone on here ever put their car on corner scales and done the "lift the back 10 inches" trick to calculate the center of mass?
     
  2. CHILI

    CHILI Indestructable Target

    An interesting question.......

    I am 74yrs old(and have been Driving/Riding Motor Vehicles since age 14).
    Not once in all that time, have I ever needed(or felt the urge)to burden myself with that particular piece of knowledge......
    Given my current age (and Physical condition)I genuinely feel that such information may be somewhat superfluous, at this point-in-time....:rofl::br:
     
  3. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Never heard of it but I DO have a set of corner scales... What exactly are you hoping to achieve? Happy to much around with the scales...
     
  4. Madcow

    Madcow Active Member

    I have thought about this too. I have even thought about how to DIY a set.

    Anyway unless you are tracking the car i dont think you will notice much difference. However it would be interesting to know.
     
  5. scottyoz1962

    scottyoz1962 Active Member

    But what version you looking at ? 2+2 , 2+0 , Convertible, slicktop, targa top ? each will have it's own .
     
  6. Instamatic

    Instamatic Active Member

    Can you explain that method? I've never heard of it.
     
  7. sandeep

    sandeep Active Member

  8. ztoy

    ztoy Autospark Evolution


    Pretty much like this. There are plenty of calculators online. Basically you corner weigh the car, lift the back of at least 10inches, corner weigh again and with a bit of mathamagics you can figgure out the center of gravity (CG) between the axles and height from the ground.

    What am I trying to achieve? Its more of a musing right now as im doing the suspension on my car. All suspension angles are measured in relation to the CG by text book.

    eg, Lowering the car lowers the CG but it also messes up (increases) the relationship between the roll center and the CG. Squat and dive characteristics are also measured against the CG.

    Im seeing a lot of people on the interwebs tilting subframes, and moving mounting points without a CG to measure how they are actually changing things.
    I have started plotting out the suspension pickup points and angles so that I can plot the whole thing down on paper and see were things are in relation before doing any hardcore mods.

    My CG will be different to a TT as I have the LS. As I will be measuring mine once its back together I was curious to see what a normal zeds CG is.
     
  9. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

    Very interested to see what you come up with

    Most people forget while they're ragging on the agricultural LS that a single cam makes for MUCH lighter heads
     
  10. kickerzx

    kickerzx Member

    Slightly of topic, but you could just lower the car with drop cnuckles instead of coilovers/springs and get the best of both worlds. Lower the CG AND keep the stock geometry
     

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