Oil Breather Catch Can

Discussion in 'Technical' started by GB GC, Feb 6, 2015.

  1. GB GC

    GB GC Member

    My apologies if this is one of those questions asked 1000 times before, but a quick search failed to show me any.
    My Z32 Track car blows oil smoke on start up after a hard sprint run - no other time. Turbo's, Valve Guide Seals etc may well be worn but in all other uses are not an issue. Its a 1996 TT engine.
    It has been suggested that we re route the rocker cover breathers to a catch can rather than back into the intake as is standard.
    Any thoughts / comments?
    Anyone know where I can get the press in fittings I will need for the Rocker Covers?
     
  2. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    It's probably rings and yeah routing via a catch can is a good idea. Re the rocker covers you can block them off but that will decrease the efficiency of the system. If your car is already noticeably affected by blow by you might want to try tapping the exhaust cam covers and running lines from both in and ex covers to a catch can.
     
  3. Fists

    Fists Well-Known Member

    For maximum effect you want to make sure you get a baffled catch can to separate the oil from the air.
     
  4. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    I've got these guys in stock for $120

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    The barb fittings will match your existing PCV lines so no need to spend up on fittings and adapters etc.

    For another $20 I can include all the fittings that you'll need to block off the exhaust cam covers and the ports in the plenum if you want to go that way.
     
  5. Fists

    Fists Well-Known Member

    Atmospheric venting catch cans on a Z will need a capacity of 3 liters to meet CAMS general requirements, there's an exception for street registered cars in non-race events but if you start spilling oil they'll probably be rather upset with you.

    Also note that all four cam breathers/PCVs need to be isolated from the intake with an atmospheric breather system unless you're running a MAFless ECU.
     
  6. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    Ok challenge accepted I'm sure I can find something suitable :D
     
  7. Fists

    Fists Well-Known Member

    Casual track days are usually pretty relaxed but competition needs something properly set up. A catch can is on my to-do list as well and I'm thinking a baffled can plumbed back to the intake (no breather) that drains back to the sump is my preferred solution. I'm cheap and lazy at the moment though so I haven't done much research on it.
     
  8. Fists

    Fists Well-Known Member

    I'm no expert by the way, would probably run designs past someone like Black Beast or the guys at UAS, maybe scrutineers for GB's events. It could be easier than I think it is but I'm a fairly cautious guy and there's enough stories out there of blowing oil under your own wheels.
     
  9. 92z32tt

    92z32tt New Member

    I did this.New Oil Catch Tank made and installed ... PCV system IS gone :D

    Had to relocate the Fuel Filter to the back of the car to make room.

    The tank has a 13mm drain with a tap accessible from underneath the car for easy-ish access.

    Now just have to source a Solid State Relay and sort it's wiring to the ECU for my new improved water injection control, then it's off to finish the tune ( seems to be a never ending process :roll: )

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  10. Shane001

    Shane001 Well-Known Member

    Mines simple, PCV's deleted and blocked off. Intake cover outlets with standard low pressure oil hose leading to a 3lt catch can mounted low behind the radiator. Simple and cheap.
     
  11. Fists

    Fists Well-Known Member

    I'm guessing vented can and plugged the ports in the intake pipes?

    That's probably the better solution for a dedicated track car, mines street/track day so I lean towards the plumb back design.
     
  12. Shane001

    Shane001 Well-Known Member

    Yep mines dedicated racecar. So just got a small filter on top.

    For street it needs to be plumbed back or it's not legal.
     
  13. GB GC

    GB GC Member

    Thanks for the pics, helps me heaps.
    Where did you get the four engine fittings?
    Speed flow make them but the engine side is too large for the Zed.
     
  14. GB GC

    GB GC Member

    My Z is road registered but rarely driven on the road so I am intending to go with the vented can and run the gauntlet with the Dept of Transport. To be honest there are so many other things that they would be frothing over if they pulled me up, they would probably miss that on anything but a complete inspection. (LoL)
     
  15. Shane001

    Shane001 Well-Known Member

    If you mount it down low behind the radiator like so they probably won't even see it :D

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    Edit: This requires removal of the clutch fan though...
     
  16. dieseldave

    dieseldave Well-Known Member

    Plumb it in to the exhaust. No catch can required.
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  17. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

    It's really not that hard.

    If you have CAMS regs or something to comply with then yes you've got to spec the can correctly. Otherwise the only place to get caught is with the fittings. I fit a can for someone recently that was an ebay number with UNF threads... by the time it was installed in the car the fittings required to make it work with the Z must have cost 3x what the can did.
     
  18. GB GC

    GB GC Member

    Thanks to everyone for their help here.
    What started out as an "idea" has now gelled into something achievable.
    The can is over 3 litres so it will be CAMS compliant should it need be and I am tucking it away next to the intakes so its under the centre panel between the headlights.
    Will post up some pics of the finished job as soon as it is .....and when I can work out how to add pics to my posts.
     
  19. Drno300zx

    Drno300zx Member

    hi, sorry mate but cant get my head around getiing rid of the clutch fan?!?!
    i know phisicaly possible but what about cooling the engine
    sorry if i took you away from the original post

    cheers
     
  20. Shane001

    Shane001 Well-Known Member

    You'll need a good thermo and good ducting.
     

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