Inform me about head work required when upgrading cams

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  1. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    I've pieced together a bit of info from searching

    then there's this...

    these threads have been very useful:

    http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/showthread.php?t=326269

    http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/showthread.php?t=285791

    but i'm still a bit stumped.

    so put simply I'm curious about which (if any) cams can be dropped in with the motor + heads still in the car.

    If there are cams that are happy to do this, would a thinking man would use them? or does the defining factor that allows them to be "drop ins" limit their effectiveness?

    Of course it is wiser to set this all up as the engine is assembled, but what drawbacks are faced installing them later?

    Lastly, for machining necessary, can it be done safely (again, would a smart man) with heads in-situ? i.e removing a small amount of material with a dremel versus line honing.

    I have JUN valve springs and BDE series 1 intake gears, though the latter can be exchanged if necessary. Bottom end is currently being assembled and head work has not begun, currently intending to use S1 manual cams. I think I am leaning towards the JUN 264/9.5 cams but am flexible.

    Cheers.

    -A
     
  2. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

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    Put simply no.

    When going big lift you EITHER need to make room in the heads for bigger cams OR reduce the base of the cam which has the flow on effect of reducing pre load on the lifter.

    The 9.5mm/.264 cams you mentioned will require the heads be machined to accommodate them.
     
  3. shineyzx

    shineyzx Member

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    Possible to mechine them before assembly? Then you can drop them later on.
    Or would guessing how much needs to be removed be to difficult?
     
  4. rob260

    rob260 Administrator Staff Member

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    Just machine with a due grinder -not much needs to come off and it doesn't need a great deal of precision.
     
  5. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    So the machining for the Jun 264 cams is simple stuff doable by hand then?
     
  6. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

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    get the machine shop to do it when they do the rest of the work .$300


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  7. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    what is physically done to the head?
     
  8. bRACKET

    bRACKET Do Right Dean

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    The head is simply given clearance to allow for the larger lobe, a small amount of the casting is grinded away.
     
  9. syntax_X

    syntax_X Zed Head

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    Dremel the slag from around #6 oil runners while your at it..
     
  10. Chrispy

    Chrispy Pretentious Upstart

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    This is how much I had removed from my heads to fit 264deg Ivan tighe cams.

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  11. Tech@EPR

    Tech@EPR Member

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    Stock relief

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    Where I go in and increase lobe clearance.

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  12. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    Oh that's all! That could easily be done with heads still on the car and a dremel. Obviously with a stupid amount of rags and tape everywhere to catch the shrapnel.
     
  13. WazTTed

    WazTTed Grease Monkey

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    these are mine
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  14. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

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    lol

    that's a silly idea .

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  15. Claymen

    Claymen Active Member

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    Heres mine JUN 272/9.5

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  16. Anti

    Anti 14.7 x 14.7 = 44.1

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    actually yeah, but I guess the OP was requesting to know if it required a bench tool.
     

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