Fitting parts - responsibility

Discussion in 'Non Technical' started by mungyz, Oct 9, 2012.

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Who is responsible for the lost time while working on and fitting the faulty part?

  1. The supplier, parts should never go to the customer faulty.

    15 vote(s)
    34.1%
  2. The tuner, all parts must be checked prior to working on them/fitting them.

    11 vote(s)
    25.0%
  3. Both equally to blame, both should have the customer in mind.

    18 vote(s)
    40.9%
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  1. TWIN TERROR

    TWIN TERROR Well-Known Member

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  2. mungyz

    mungyz Well-Known Member


    You are lying Doc, you posted "no one" you DID NOT include the "in the thread" I myself stated AFTER you said "no one" that no one has posted in the thread supporting me.

    You are clutching at straws and arguing semantics, the point is and has always been that he had the part fitted to the engine as per the pictures that have been posted, he was well on his way to completing the job until the turbo did not fit (allegedly).

    If the turbo had fitted then he would have finished the job having installed a faulty manifold - with according to him a core shift issue resulting in thin walls of the manifold. if he knew this then why did he bolt it up to the engine/ If he didn't know this when he bolted it up then why did he not see it while port matching the ports as he claims to have done.

    Go on start attacking me personally as you did on 3ZC, we all know it's coming.

    Oh here is the post where you said no one in the thread apparently - must be written in that invisible font:

    Yeah as I said no one else that had posted in the thread.
     
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2012
  3. stumagoo

    stumagoo Active Member

    As you have so accurately quoted Mungz posts about the particular event on another forum, I would like to point out that while that situation was the origin of this poll, the poll was not about that particular situation and was in fact about the personal ideas towards the concept of liabilty in general. The querries as to more specific situations and thus the leading to comments about the orignal discussion held on another thread were requested to be left out of the poll altogether, I realise that different situations will gve rise to different potential results but as per the original post this was not about the specific case of which has now been dragged here to what I believe is the detrement of this site and thread.
     
  4. I copied and pasted the post mungy, I don't know how to make it any more clear to you aside from:

    Link to original post

    "Here" is in the AMS thread, on 3ZC. I stated the above, not what you claim: "continues to say no one agrees with me". I quoted this already, why would you find a different post to quote? This is what I mean by misrepresenting what I've posted, as well as what my position is - my opinion is that it is intentional for the purpose of proving to an audience that you were right...

    Link to original post

    I do not need to lie mungy, no reason for it. It is all there for you to review if you truly think what transpired differs from what I am stating.

    The point being, IF your argument is that it is wrong IF the fitter...

    See? That is not what transpired. Going off your description of the law and that the parts were not finished, the defect was discovered by the fitter and he is working with the customer to find a solution.

    I understand your point, but right away mungy used the poll in his argument on the other forum - I seriously doubt that he worded the thread in the same spirit that you describe.
     
  5. mungyz

    mungyz Well-Known Member

    I know exactly what you said and when and you are lying plain and simple.

    You DID NOT include the words "in this thread" when you first claimed that no one agreed/agrees with me. After the first couple of times you posted that you upgraded to "no one here" or words to that effect.

    Either way regardless of all the BS you posted for pages and pages trying to argue the point the poll does not lie and the posts here are not from fictional members, I am NOT alone in the opinion that Ash screwed up as well.

    I created the poll to "self check' my stance, seeing as you guys got so bitter and twisted about it I though I had better make sure I'm not out of line - apparently I was right on the money.

    Doc quit trying to dance around it, the part was fitted - he then found reason to remove it, doesn't mater moot point he did fit it and he did apparently port it and he did coat it THAT is the stuff up I am and always have been referring to.

    The reference to law etc is only to try and put it clearer for you in some way, obviously you just don't get it and never will.
    It took time to do the work on the manifold and it took time to fit it, all lost because of a failure to check the part first. If Ash charges the customer or not is NOT the point, if he broke the law or not is NOT the point, if he is liable for costs incurred etc is not the point 9not my point anyway)

    The point is he DID make an error, you can't say he didn't his own photo shows he did.

    BOTH AMS and Ash made an error - get the hell over it man.
     
  6. See that bolded above mungy? You added that part - I never argued that I made the exact literal statement you wrote above. You wrote that "a certain person continues to say no one agrees with me", which is untrue and is the statement to which I responded.

    You can go on about this, but what I posted is clear. If you want to ignore that I literally posted the following on 3ZC: "Nobody agrees with you here mungy, so you are going to go somewhere else," then go ahead.

    You can also continue to call me names if you'd like...your decision.



    OK. So you agree that the hypothetical scenarios you posted do not apply...

    Your opinion is that Ash didn't check the part at the same stage in the process as you think it should be, but not that he didn't discover the problem with the manifold.

    If that is all you are stating then you are entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine. My opinion is that Ash made the right call in stopping the work when he did, and not proceeding to modify the defective manifolds as well as other components.

    That should settle it then, right?
     
  7. BLACK BEAST

    BLACK BEAST SLICKTOP TT R-SPEC

    Don't you 2 dare come to an agreement :p


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  8. gmbrezzo

    gmbrezzo Moderator

    between Bonz (MD) and Mungyz. It stops here!
    No more replys.
     
  9. gmbrezzo

    gmbrezzo Moderator

    Quite correct and that is how it should have progressed.
     
  10. gmbrezzo

    gmbrezzo Moderator

    Yeah. Its had its time.
     
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