WA Yellow 300Z siezed by police maybe crushed

What a waste it will be if the police crush a 300zx they siezed, its enough to make Z owners cry. Under the new law 3rd time (serial) offenders can have there car sized and crushed. Picked him up after he left the police holding yard where the Z was being held in relatrion to his second offence driving without a current licence.

 

Good...

crush away I say..... Its just a pitty that its a zed.....

I hope they start the same crushing law in victoria. If you havent learnt by the 3rd offence that you're being a tool, then you dont deserve a car.

 

I agree with taking the guy's car away if he's being an idiot - driving without a license qualifies for idiot status - but why not just sell the car on the open market and put money back into the community. It's not the car's fault it was being driven illegally so why waste so much good money. Can't see the point of that.

 

discussed in 2 other threads already

Its arbitrary punishment. Plus anyone with a clue would sell their car after 2 strikes and start fresh. Id buy a similar model and transfer the performance parts across.

 

When will you understand that it is NOT THE CAR that gets the 2 strikes.
It's the DRIVER.
So it won't make any difference what so ever if you change the car and think you are going to start afresh.

Cheers
Kerry
:zlove:

 

pffft :bash:

 

Regret to say it's much worse than that Kerry. This is the NSW rule for hooning in someone else's car.

Note the clever last line. Your car gets crushed not because you were hooning, but because you didn't supervise it properly.

Edit: Of course Kerry is right in that changing the car won't change anything. What they are doing (at least in NSW) is keeping a separate tally of owners who hoon in cars they own, and owners of cars that are used for hooning by others. Either way they get your car, being the one involved in the third offence. So upgrading to that SL55 with two hoon strikes already against you would not be that smart.

 

does the hoon law have any protection against car theft? say, your lamborghini is stolen by a "2nd strike offender", does a burnout, gets caught. is that the end of your car, completely no fault of your own?

and the three strikes thing, does it "reset" after strike 3, if so, then the theory of starting fresh works. I get 2 strikes in my "hectik ride", then i go buy a $50 bomb at the police auctions, hoon out my 3rd strike, lol when the bomb gets crushed, then i hop back in the "hectick ride" for another 2 strikes

 

In the first example, it doesn't matter how many strikes the car thief has, he doesn't own the car so they don't count. If the actual owner had two strikes as owner (not driver) there looks to be a possible problem, but no doubt for a genuine car theft the Court process would sort that out.

It seems there is no 5 year rule for owner/driver cars. You get one three month suspension, and then you can lose your car for every offence thereafter. That does seem to mean forever.

Here is the RTA commentary:

Note it also says that the car may not will be forfeited. The decision to confiscate the car must be taken by a Court, not Const Plod.

 

Riiiiight lol :bash: I fully think it depends on what your doing TBH. Drink driving etc? Hell yes, why dont they take the car off you for that shit and crash it, churping the wheels a bit off the lights? Come on. That is hardly life threatening. Simple fact is the government is fine happy and they put in this law to try and put a blanket over peoples eyes to show them they are doing the right then and infact it is flawed in so many ways it is not funny.

 

The NSW Laws differentiate between a "burnout" and an "aggravated burnout". We only crush for the better class of burnout it seems.

 

In the early 70's ,when I was 17, I would have been a gonner with my fully bombed xu1 with these laws. 12.8 1/4 mile.
I look back and start thinking what a nut case I was. What were my parents thinking???
What was I thinking?
I know what I was thinking "where's a hot car to race"!!!!
Amazed I lived through it.

 

I really dont get this whole car crushing thing. Instead of destroying a perfectly find car, sell it at an auction and donate the money to victims of car crashes or something.

 

I know this has been discussd elsewhere, but...

Here it is the driver that has the 3 strikes, not the car.

Also, Mr plod has NO say in it. The first time you hoon, the car is taken away for 28 days. FULL STOP. Even if the car doesn't belong to the driver.

For example, a mechanic took a Lambo out for a spin and it got impounded for 28 days.



In another incident, a guy got picked up in a BRAND NEW Mini Cooper S when he was test driving it. Again, car was impounded.



The laws are apparently being revised. They only took effect in January this year (ish), as the original drafter didn't foresee these problems.

..."seizure could be cancelled only if a vehicle was stolen, it was a hire car, was not seized in accordance with the Act, or for reasons of extraordinary hardship, such as reliance on a vehicle for a medical emergency."

Also, noone ever said the car WILL be crushed.

The WA Police have the ability to choose that option. Another option is to see the car and return the money to the government.

 

To my thinking all these confiscation laws have gone to far , we never voted on it and it gives police extreme power way above what they have ever had before , it causes extreme injustice, hardship and inequitable treatment of citizens committing the same offence . A person could get small fine and another person be could loose everything they own for the same offence. These laws of confiscation of property must be abolished. Australians are to easy going to allow it to go this far.

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I think its stupid to. The reason it doesnt work, is because its just a knee jerk reaction bandaid fix. It wasnt thought out at all.

 

Should have been ..."sell the car"...

 

Crushing cars.. doesn't fix the problem. Teach people to control their vehicle better when it loses control and that'll fix many problems... and instead of wasting time making new rules like the 120 hours you need on your L's. Just teach kids and adults alike how to drive wildly.. teach them exactly HOW to hoon.. You'd learn a lot more if you spent 24 hours on a circuit driving a car than you would if you spent 120 hours on the road, in regards to vehicle control. Road rules are just the theory.. your ability to drive is what will save your life and the life of others when things get out of control.

Let people hoon. If it gets them into a crash.. or they stuff up their own car.. that's what teaches the lesson... when their own ability fails them. When their car is crushed.. they still have their pride, and confidence in their ability.. and therefore will probably try something similar again.

 

umm...no. Just no.

So let people hoon hey? They'll learn their lesson if they crash? Yeah, sure. They'll die, and the family of 5 on their way out for dinner will pay the consequences. This is a VERY short sighted view, my friend. I don't necessarily agree with crushing cars but letting people do whatever the hell they want would be a massive backwards step in society.

 

Well... if i tailored the idea to modern society.. in a less brutal and more realistic approach i'd just say... give hoons... somewhere to hoon.. for free. More drag strips.. circuits... large open fields of tarmac.

But in all honesty.. a crash WILL teach them more than having their car crushed. Not saying it's morally correct though... or fair that the family of 5 would die just to teach 1 hoon a lesson.

People should just drive within their limits. And be Taught their limits.

I just think if people are going to learn. It won't come easy. And in most cases it will take something pretty damn traumatic to teach a definite lesson.