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Old 28-02-2010, 06:52 PM   #41
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Have you bought some new steering rod ends yet? They are going to have to need to have longer shafts to go with the lowered Ikeya arms.

I bought these.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/D-Project-STE...item45ee414c2f

Lowers the ball joint about the same amount as your lower arm has dropped.

Those Ikeya front lower arms are really nice. I couldnt afford those and ended up getting some bok choy ones that looked OK. I like yours better though.
My steering rod ends need to be even longer
I'm lucky JP has the old ones from the slot car which are the right size as our pivot mods are the same.

just make sure the rod ends on your lower control arms are beefy .
JP bent the original SPL ones (which arent that good) and put 18mm ends on his.

D-project isnt too bad ..I have the rear upper camber arms ,strong steel, but I threw the female rose joint in the bin and put a stronger 16mm male one
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Old 01-03-2010, 10:04 AM   #42
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Have you bought some new steering rod ends yet? They are going to have to need to have longer shafts to go with the lowered Ikeya arms.

I bought these.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/D-Project-STE...item45ee414c2f

Lowers the ball joint about the same amount as your lower arm has dropped.

Those Ikeya front lower arms are really nice. I couldnt afford those and ended up getting some bok choy ones that looked OK. I like yours better though.
You know what is going on Tecky. Yes this is next on the list but not Ebay crap. BTW how is it extra steering lock, magic? Rob is getting custom Billet alloy ones with quality rod ends, not FLing Woo.

They need to be longer factory set up and much longer with this roll centre change. The way we set it up, it automatically gives anti dive by changing the angles of the radius rods sloping down slightly more as a bonus. The other way it can be done is simply spacing the Ikea outer ball joints down. Although this changes the factory geometry too much and the lower control arm over powers the top arm and gets too much camber change in compression. Also not shown on the pics, but it has a Chrome Molly plate welded on the other side of the engine cross member for strength.
Next step is to raise the upper front control arm pivot points which can only go up around 10mm without major surgery. 10 mm in the equasion is way better than nothing though.

Also before you try this at home, you can only redrill the lower control arm inner points on engine cross member, if you have aftermarket arms with inner rod end, allowing the clearance to be able to do this.
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Old 01-03-2010, 10:38 AM   #43
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This phatt stance FTW!!!

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couldnt help myself ..testing slotcar 10.5 inch wheel on rear

Very impressive spec you're building your Zed up to. I'm loving following this thread, no stuffing around, no time wasting, just action!! keep up the great work!
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Old 01-03-2010, 10:47 AM   #44
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Is there room on the top of the J arm to shift the camber pivot DOWN? this will have a similar effect as lifting the inner point UP, I guess it depends on wheel & tyre choice & how much work you want to do
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Is there room on the top of the J arm to shift the camber pivot DOWN? this will have a similar effect as lifting the inner point UP, I guess it depends on wheel & tyre choice & how much work you want to do

I may have been confusing, we did it this way by choice for reasons explained and yes the Ikea F arms have opitonal spacers and different sizes to space the female Rod end outer down, this also raises roll centre but not best way to do it.
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Old 01-03-2010, 03:02 PM   #46
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You know what is going on Tecky. Yes this is next on the list but not Ebay crap. BTW how is it extra steering lock, magic? Rob is getting custom Billet alloy ones with quality rod ends, not FLing Woo.

The D project rod ends are Japanese and the tie rod ends are Chrome Molley, not Fling woo. (however my bottom arms are Fling Woo )

Just keep the pics coming. Take one of the Chrome molly plate on the cross member you talked about.
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is fling woo related to bok choy by any chance?
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:27 AM   #48
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is fling woo related to bok choy by any chance?
It's his cousins factory across the road.
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yes the Ikea F arms have opitonal spacers and different sizes
lol flat pack suspension from Ikea anyone? fling woo and bok choy all buy it from them.
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Topfeed rails

They have finally arrived !!
Mattz topfeed rail kit ....bargain just over $1000au delivered


fuel system almost complete just need surgetank made and braided lines/fittings
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I love those rails

And couldn't you get a bigger fuel pump? 1/2" fittings on that thing?
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:26 PM   #52
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I love those rails

And couldn't you get a bigger fuel pump? 1/2" fittings on that thing?
-10an

but going to run -10an from surgetank and -8an on the feed to match the rails
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Make sure you keep the feed from the pump to rail -10, aeromotive specifily say not to step it down, pump life will be greatly reduced.
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Make sure you keep the feed from the pump to rail -10, aeromotive specifily say not to step it down, pump life will be greatly reduced.
so you are saying to reduce it right at the rail?
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It shouldn't be reduced at all, but at the rail would present the least restriction because directly after that it's through the reg anyway.
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It shouldn't be reduced at all, but at the rail would present the least restriction because directly after that it's through the reg anyway.
would putting a pump speed controller make a difference?
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Only reason they would say not to reduce down is friction losses, so if you reduce at the rail it would be fine.

You got a pump curve for that thing? I can probably work it out for you.

Edit. I reckon the speed controller would have an effect, but those pumps have a pretty flat curve, so less benefit than you might think.
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Pump controller will help, there is a curve on thier site chrispy.
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Its 450 litres an hour. I have one too.

When you buy a 20 foot roll of 10AN alloy pipe there is enough pipe to run to the front of the car and back to the surge tank. So you dont even need any 8AN pipe.

Make sure the Reg has 10AN inlets/outlets as well Beast. I got an SX one that looks just right.
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... im sorry, but i will cease to follow this thread.

It's just too hard core for me.

When it's my turn, ill take my car to a shop.

"Hi, here is my car, if you open the glove box, there is $25,000 in cash. Take it. Ill be back in three months, and when my car pulls 450rwkw, you get another $25,000. Baiiii!!!!!!!!!"
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